I always thought it was child protective services until last year. Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. Police revealed they believe their suspect may be hiding in plain sight. As we noted above, one girl suffered a grievous wound to the throat. Carroll County Historical Museum Photo Archives. . The witnesses could only see the top half of BGs face. This sketch replaces an older sketch that was provided on July 17th, 2017. And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said both girls had been violated with foreign objects. Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves. The owner, Bob Matlock, told the paper the accused killer would come in with his wife three to four times a week. Estimations of the depth range from ankle deep to knee deep. I saw videos of the bridge and also videos of the trails, if witnesses are seeing other witnesses or even saw BG then isnt it strange that they didnt see Libby or Abby? Timestamp 7:32Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, April 22 2019, 4. I would really like to get some input from you, since you have been doing one heckofa job. However, his middle name is different. True Crime podcasts, which have exploded in popularity over the last decade, have been credited with impacting numerous other previously unsolved high-profile crime cases. From 16-17, females are very fertile but their hips are not wide enough to give easy birth to a child, hence the high rate of complications. Fear As a Freezing Agent, or Why Introverts Have Such Low Rates of Violence, Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, More Crazy (Obsessive and Conspiratorial) Antisemitism, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. He was never charged with any wrongdoing and later died in 2020 from Covid-19. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. failed . State police officials have released a new short clip of the video recorded on Libby German's . woman walking her dog (i.e. He has the same first name and last name as Mr. X. The next day, two bodies were found in an area along Deer Creek, east of the bridge. The composite sketch was created after state police received new information from witnesses along the trail. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. This is why its so hard to get girls this age pregnant. On 12/8/22, the defense asked for its financial requests to be sealed so their defense strategy would not be revealed. yup, plus it's popping up just as interest in the case is potentially waning, adding a fresh boost to it. ", full press conference can be found on YouTube, Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file, April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, Community continues to search for missing teens, Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's families, Abigail Williams & Liberty German: 5 Fast Facts You Need toKnow. From age 16 on, theyre fertile as rabbits. At 17, he was the right age for a 19 year old Catfish Boy. New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 14. The murders of Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, uprooted the small Indiana community of Delphi, leaving many to wonder who could commit such a heinous act - kill two teenage best friends who had their . And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. "But once Friday rolled around, that was the first time we heard the name, Richard Allen. The slain girls' families were also regulars at the restaurant, Matlock said. . But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least. Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. The man said he had not but that he had seen a couple on the bridge. Sickens me to watch people make it about lining their pockets, but you know Karna always has a way of rearing it head , Kegan Dunker is Garett Kirts good buddy. To get more specific, onFebruary 22, 2017 Indiana State Police Sgt. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. Libby was murdered in 2017 alongside her best friend, Abby Williams Credit: YouTube. He finally broke down and told his wife about the girls being violated sexually by natural wooden objects from the forest. Yes, the detective is great! And when they had found the shoe they had asked what kind of shoes the girls were wearing. In a copy of that never-before-seen warrant, it was revealed that Libby and Abby lost a lot of blood during their murders and were not killed in the same location where their bodies were discovered along the Delphi Historic Trials. This section was relatively shallow and during certain seasons it acts as a sandbar. Officers transport murder suspect Richard Allen during a hearing regarding sealed documents, Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2022, at Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi, Ind. All arrows are in this map are abstract approximations and not intended to be taken literally. You've successfully subscribed to this newsletter! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The Indy Channel article Delphi Timeline, 13. "They were a good family couple," Matlock said. She would also have had to stage herself as well as the other girl, lay out the smiley-face sheet, hang dolls in the trees and scatter them on the ground, and somehow place a giant plush toy at the scene,. I think they love to hate you because you are that good! This is all very confused. Bryant did not draw the sketch that police released in July 2017. The police asked the publics help to identify a vehicle that was seen parked near the Monon High Bridge the day Abby and Libby Killed. "I think the media in these cases can play a very important role in informing the public and keeping people focused on the facts of the investigation as opposed to speculation, as well as keeping interest in the case going, and tips pouring in," explained ine. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I could be wrong. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. You should join the group if you can afford it. The man charged with the 2017 Delphi murders has been tied to a bullet found at the bloody crime scene and is believed to be the so-called "bridge guy" captured on camera by his victims, according to a newly-released affidavit.. A redacted version of the probable cause affidavit was released on Tuesday, finally revealing what led to the arrest and charging of local man Richard Allen almost . By 4 p.m., it was like, 'oh man,''said Patty. " c) Where was fsg while BG was on the bridge with Abby and Libby? On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. "Or is it a matter of they're strongly suspecting that other people were involved in some capacity and they want to run those things down? Allen, a 50-year-old CVS worker who has lived in Delphi for more than a decade, has pleaded not guilty to the charges. I hate to be one of those people, but I'm not sure this "witness" exists. The police keep saying they're close to solving the case, is that true or is that a bad sign that they're far from it? I am quite happy to ban you here today. "What will be the evidence against him? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. I have a theory that the crime scene was already set up before the girls were placed there. Delphi, Indiana - In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. when Libby posted a picture on Snapchat. That is exactly what he said. The renderings are a "ballpark estimation of what the person looks like.". How do I log in? Members of the Delphi community should reflect back on people they know in the community that look similar to the sketch released on April 22nd, especially if that person has changed their appearance since the murders occurred in February of 2017. The sketches are not exact, Bryant said. For more information, please see our PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. Anna on the podcast Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Episode: Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's familiesTimestamp 14:25, 18. Were seeking the publics help to identify the driver of a vehicle that was parked at the old CPS/DCS welfare building in the city of Delphi that was abandoned on the eastside of county road 300 North next to the Hoosier Heartland highway between the hours of noon to five pm on February [13th] 2017. Source: April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, [Note: originally it was said to be on February 14 2017, but it was later corrected by law enforcement to February 13th.]. The new trial date will be set during the June bail hearing. I think a witness would assume that the suspect was a local or from the nearby region and that the witness was probably a local. It carried trains high above Deer Creek until it was abandoned by CSX in 1987.The abandoned railroad bridge has since become a popular attraction for people who live in the area, despite its disrepair and exclusion from the official Delphi Historic Trail System. The Indy Channel article Delphi Daughters, 9. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. Hello. However it is easy to fake screenshots. We do have Crop Protection Services here in town (recently changed name to NutriAg Solutions, and funny enough they were going to move operations over to the cps building when it was vacant and got into a lease with the town but there were to many problems with the building and it didnt pass code, they never moved in and moved into a building over on Prince William rd instead. It could be literally anything. Or maybe someone gave him a ride or a worker for the graveyard saw him. And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region's historic trails. You know I ran back out to the house here and I got any Ipads or Ipods or computers or anything electronic gadgetry that I could come across to take back in so that they could review through all that." ", CVS customer Betty Cummings told the Indy Star, "He just blended right in. DELPHI, Ind. So the building was still standing but was not in use during the day of the crime February 13, 2017. Subscribe to Forensic Tales podcast so you dont miss an episode! "So who knows what lies ahead? We dont know how hes acting in relation to all of this stuff. Email tips to rebecca.rosenberg@fox.com and @ReRosenberg. When she approached, offering help, the young man told her that he was waiting for his dad to pick him up. All that is known publicly is the initial sight of the encounter (the south east end of the bridge) is not the same location as the body disposal sight. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. [20]. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Prior to doing so, Allens wife had an image from 2018 displayed on her page showing their adult daughter posing on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene. The quality and relevance of these footprints is unknown. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" d) The arguing couple boyfriend said he saw a guy who matched video description - again where did the boyfriend see this guy? I have a few, but they probably dont hold a candle to what you came up with. ine said. When confusion arose after the episode's release, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources.". There were definitely dolls at the site that day. Richard Allen is a pharmacy technician and married father who is accused in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail Williams and Liberty German, near an old railroad bridge in Delphi, Indiana . Im not sure if the second validated the dolls in trees. The first woman contacted two separate team members in addition to the first person, so shes told at least three separate people so far. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. DELPHI MURDERS: INDIANA MAN REPORTEDLY IN CUSTODY IN CONNECTION WITH 2017 KILLINGS OF 2 GIRLS, Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. "He has not been on our radar, we don't know whose radar he was on. The Indiana State Police superintendent explains the reason for the different sketches. Nor do we have any evidence that the stepson was at the crime scene that day or participated in the crime in any way. -Mike Patty. Kim Riley discusses the sketch released Monday of a man believed to be connected to murder of Liberty German and Abigail . At the entrance of the trail? I'm sooo thankful the witness came through. We say this because he has the same first and last name as Mr. X. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Did he work alone as a solo killer? They released a second sketch of the suspect that looks entirely different than the one released in 2017. That's why I think you should be able to get a pardon from illegal activities if you help a murder case, getting the killer is so much more important than convicting someone for drugs. But theres no hard evidence that it is true. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Knowing that the sketches are of two different people brings up the question, why did the investigation switch focus from their first suspect to another? And yes, that may be the tie-in with KAK. Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file. Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Allen, who is married, came forward as a witness in the earlier stages of the investigation, a source told FOX 59. Two days after the new sketch was given, a news bulletin was released to clarify the relationship between the two sketches: Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches. So many new developments. Mike Patty has said that on February 13, 2017 he went back to the house and collected "any Ipads or Ipods or computers or anything electronic gadgetry that I could come across to take back in" to law enforcement. Tweet by an ABC-7 news reporter showing where crime scene tape was located. I have been sitting on this information for 5 1/2 weeks because I was afraid that releasing this information might make the younger suspect run, but I have decided now is the right time to release it. Delphi Murders, Delphi Double Murders, Abby and Libby, Bridge Guy, Delphi Girls, Delphi Bridge Guy, Libby and Abby*RECOMMEND: Monitor Screen Size no more tha. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Your POI and my POI are the same person and I honestly didnt know half of what you have listed here! This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. (JBC and others unknown). Whether this is reference to a vehicle parked near the CPS building or a generic request for witnesses is unknown. Unless it's really a 'he', and they say it was a female witness to confuse the killer. Bryant uses a "facial identification reference sheet" that has a list of different categories, from head shapes to different eyebrows and noses. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never spoken to before, helping them to garner some vital leads. Hes a suspect, as Mr. X is, as so many people have been. They just do it for the Hell of it. "I guess that's kind of the new mission.". Though most have no idea of who Mr X is, it looks like you just said it in the replies. Hello Mr Lindsay, I think that I finally found you lol, you invited me to join your group. The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. Something's fishy I think. J. Kyle Keener, aphotographer working for the newspaper Pharos Tribune took some of the highest quality photos of the investigation during February 14, 2017. Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address: Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. Just forget about him. The girls were reported missing by 5:30 p.m., and an Amber Alert was sent out across the state of Indiana for the missing teenagers. Published 2:05 AM PST Nov. 15, 2022 Updated 12:41 PM PST Nov. 29, 2022. Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. On the 15th, Indy Channel wrote an article saying: Indiana State Police also want to talk to anyone who was parked at High Bridge Trail Head on Monday, February 13, between 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. 1 of 2. He said, 'did you happen to see two girls up there?' "While sometimes it's been painful, I am grateful for you all.". Train crossing the Monon High Bridge. Bullet found near 2 teen girls' bodies came from suspect and witness saw man wearing "muddy and bloody" clothes, affidavit says November 30, 2022 / 6:15 AM / CBS/AP Arrest made in murders of 2 girls Or better yet, join our private group! Stepson X being involved in either of these two ways is simply a theory based on the resemblance to the sketch, we are not accusing this young man of anything, and we request that everyone absolutely leave him alone. On another thread on the sub for the case someone said one of the girls uncles or something is dating this guy JDD's (who really resembles him) sister so maybe he would know the girl. They have vaguely confirmed there were multiple witnesses when describing the process of creating the composite sketch. If the referred to "High Bridge trail head" is the location near the trail intersections or the location near the trail intersection is unknown. There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. I suppose the staging of the crime scene was also meant to stage a murder-suicide based on the suggestion that one girl hand stabbed the other in the jugular vein and the heart, which would have been plausible at least, and then stabbed herself all over her body, after which she would have cut her own throat, which is impossible. 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Libby German (left) and Abby Williams (right) were found dead in February 2017, Arrested for the two girls' murders last week was 50-year-old Delphi local Richard Allen, Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee, of The Murder Sheet podcast, expect plenty more twists in the coming weeks and months, Richard Allen is pictured with his wife with a sketch of the Delphi suspect visible in the background, One of the two composite sketches of the possible suspect released by law enforcement is seen above, The only known footage of the suspect was captured by Libby German on her phone, Richard Allen has no known criminal past and is a married pharmacy technician who worked at a local CVS, One of the final images captured by Libby German showed Abby walking along the Monon High Bridge Trial where the girls would ultimately meet their killer, Richard Allen has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder, Libby and Abby's manners of death have never been disclosed by the police, Delphi murders podcasters predict more bombshell twists in case after killer Richard Allens shocking arrest, Shock pics of Serena Williams' crumbling childhood home revealed as King Richards' legal battle over ownership rages on, Julie Powell shared disturbing tweets about health & 'black hairy tongue' a day before tragic cardiac arrest death at 49, Princess Diana was box office when she was alive - so if you dont like The Crown, dont watch, Heartbreaking new picture of American students killed in Seoul Halloween stampede taken only hours before tragic deaths, Takeoff shooting suspects hunted by Texas cops who urge witnesses to 'step up' after Migos rapper killed at party, Inside 'Killer Sally' McNeil's life after prison for Valentine's Day murder of 'abusive' husband Ray and her remarriage, Mystery deepens in disappearance of flight attendant Sarm Hislop from boyfriend's luxury boat as eerie new CCTV emerges, We spent years trying to find our real father only to discover the chilling truth from our mums doctor. , or redistributed he just blended right in, this rumor was first after! 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