Recent studies actually show that half of the male victims fail to tell anyone they are . I spend a lot of time wondering if everyones lost the plotif the erosion of empathy we see online has rendered us so inherently unkind as a species that theres no return. Johnny Depp, a Hollywood star whose career currently consists of a perfume advert, is suing his ex-wife Amber Heard, a Hollywood actress who didn't star in anything before she met him, for. They could have gotten the divorce quietly, gotten the help they need, and moved on. There are no medical records corroborating any of this. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. I never heard any complaints. So he wrote a message saying such vile and disgusting things about her, just so he can in the same message protect her by saying he cut his own finger. An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesn't believe Amber Heard's court testimony. I believe that Johnny was a paranoid, jealous, misogynistic and controlling. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. They both got hurt by each other, but in the end Johnny is the victim and Amber the abuser. "Him looking down most of the time was concerning. Unfortunately, as of this writing, it looks like Jason Momoa took down the initial announcement which was made on his Instagram page. A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. the crying? He cut his own finger. What really grinds my gears is that Amber is making a mockery out of domestic violence and will be used to discredit victims. Both things can be true at the same time. The only evidence she submitted was the . And regardless of what Heard did or didnt suffer at the hands of Depp, isnt the relentless memeing of her a form of violence in itself? idk. WATCH THE VIDEO ABOVE: Psychologist assesses Amber Heards testimony, Stream the world's best reality, entertainment and true crime shows for free on 7Bravo on 7plus >>. After tweeting "#IStandWithAmberHeard," the women say they've gotten threatening messages. I dont want to think about what this is saying to victims of abuse who are considering coming forward. When he ran out of blood, apparently he also dipped the severed finger in paint to continue writing. I think they both abused each other, and there are truth and lies from each of them. advertising. Why is he so creepy and why are people attracted to him? Experts say because many people do not view Heard as a "perfect victim," they refuse to believe she may be a victim at all. Registered office: 3rd floor, Latin Hall, Golden Lane, Dublin 8. Ad Choices. "Listening Amber Heard's testimony. Hollywood can put up with divas and drugs to make money, Mr Marks said, but added that they have drawn a line at allegations of abuse. be FAIR. Some still believe Johnny Depp is a wife-beater, and Amber Heard is the true victim in this situation. What are we, as women, supposed to take away from this tacit endorsement of his behavior? Its very hard to believe her; I want to, but the way shes coming across in her testimony just feels like its not genuine., At this point, Nat Barr said, You dont mince your words!. Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our cultures wrath for women who speak out, she added at the time. How about yall take that energy to call for her to get help and bring awareness to trauma and mental disorders instead!! However the cavity search? Richard Marks testifies in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Monday May 2, 2022. Like, I feel like Im going crazy because sure its not a complete black eye or anything but if I saw someone show up looking like that I would think they had been in a fight or accident or something? People seem to love a story where a person who we might traditionally think of as a victim is instead cast as the . When #JohnnyDepp testified #AmberHeard was staring at him and has done throughout. While Mr Marks said he didnt know of any, he went on to speculate, I assume Amber Heard thought her career would get better by bringing this out. Also, it is not true that he was never violent. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. After that incident, Johnny understood what happened and was incredibly apologetic, and tried to set boundaries to leave the room before it could escalate into physical violence again. If anything we have been conditioned by society to believe her and not him. BUT only one of them decided to put all this shit out in the public initially, and that was amber. See the message that he sent. i dont think Amber Heard believes Amber Heard. Okay, I was just answering the question you asked. Both have stated that they don't believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore it's their own fault if they are harmed by their "victim.". I am a woman who refuses to settle at a career and a life that is just, "okay". Lets revisit this cover story in The Hollywood Reporter, which ran in December 2020, one month after Depp lost his U.K. libel suit which declared him, essentially, a wife-beater. Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. They had many, many heated arguments. Amber Heard was able to provide texts, videoand photographs to substantiate her claims. Depp, 58, filed a $50 million lawsuit against Heard, 36, accusing her of defaming him in an op-ed published by The Washington Post in 2018, in which she said she was a victim of domestic abuse. We shouldnt expect them to behave like perfect victims nor should we demonise them for staying in a relationship or not fighting back. I just truly dont believe that he cut his own finger. In her 2018 op-ed, Ms Heard wrote that like many women, I had been harassed and sexually assaulted by the time I was of college age. I dont think it was as violent as she describes, but I can also see it happening with different details. Read the message. The revelation has led to headlines like this. I do believe her. I have always maintained a love for Johnny and it brings me great pain to have to live out the details of our past life together in front of the world, she said. 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We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. Or indeed women. submissions or preferences. Heard has counter-sued for $100 million for nuisance, with her attorneys arguing that the op-ed was a matter of public interest. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Unable to find it he searches ambers body. Some of the messages were: Call Carly Simon, she said it better, babe, because his past relationships have all said that he was not abusive. And I didnt see myself as a victim. I think the whole relationship was toxic, on both sides, but I dont believe most of what she says. Depp then slapped her "across the face," she testified. I think in this situation they are both abusers and the victim. Its time to believe Heard. Whats stopping the rest of us? If it were him on those recordings saying I didnt punch you I slapped you. I said it more likely BPD and there are some overlaps between personality disorders (such as Narcassistic and Antisocial PDs and BPD). ok, well he also sounded like an actor. But when she told stories of things that actually happened, it was very natural and very believable. We free each other -to be who we are learning to become. They end it with J & L. After the statement comes a number of photos, including one of an early evening sky, and one of someone holding a bird while wearing a shirt that says May my soul shout love.'. I struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is, she said, PEOPLE reports. He is 20 years her senior, extremely successful, very rich. We want to believe the mysterious good looking man who is largely considered the master of his craft. His story of grabbing her by the shoulders and sitting her on the bed to let him leave? #JustSaying. Both of these guys have said at one point or another that Depp deserved it, that theyve always hated his movies, and that they wouldnt care if she cut their own fingers off because shes hot. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. He is using such vile language and accusations against her in this very message just so he can protect her in the last paragraph of the same message. Amber claiming she gave her lawyers the pictures and that the lawyers are hiding them does not make any sense.imo she got boxed in and the only way she could think of to save herself is blame her lawyers. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. Pick your battles. She was crying - but there were no tears, Lawrence said. I think he loved her and said he did in order to protect her. I didn't believe they could do anything for me. and she was still treated as a liar. Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. Dont believe me? lol that is insane! Well add a bit of amber sprinkle into that story and say that he grabbed her arms HARD and that left a bruise. bruises dont like to be touched, Depp leaned into his lawyer and smirked. Also I think he cut his own finger but you didnt ask that. If either one of them feels justified in any of the things theyve done in this relationship, they need professional intervention on an ongoing (probably permanent) basis. This is really weird to me considering she would call him a "monster" intoxicated and claimed to want him sober. . Its hard to know who is telling the truth or just because its their truth doesnt mean its everyones truth. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Lawrence was also asked her opinion on Depps testimony. Sometimes I wonder if Im watching clips from a different trial than everyone else, because from what Ive seen, both of these people seem toxic AF. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. . Its time to believe womenall women. MermaidsHaveCloacas 6 mo. Youve seen detective shows where they do that, but it actually is a big deal when somebody is trying to communicate. He told her it said "wino," and she laughed, believing he was joking. And I honestly cant be bothered with any of this and choosing sides. Amber Heard shared disturbing testimony about alleged abuse by Johnny Depp, and TikTok users mocked her. posts, comments and submissions available. He admitted to cutting his own finger. Some weeks the internet is buoyant, all of us kept afloat by daft dresses and Kardashian weddings and Marvel actors saying theyve never been in the same room. She kept trying to catch your eye but you never allowed it. A presenter appearing on Australian breakfast TV show Sunrise has issued a brutal comment on the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial after the Aquaman actress took to the stand. Again, not getting into the rest of the evidence just the pictures weve seen in this case. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. Were always quick to believe a girl when shes abused. This one require some mental gymnastic or maybe a blind faith. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Maybe Im crazy but I believe Johnny Depp 100% & I wasnt even a Johnny Depp fan prior. Why would he in the same message where he says all of that about her also include a lie about cutting his own finger to protect her? Just wondering if anyone out there believes her side of the story. Listen to women, believe women and stop letting powerful men away with this behaviour. I think its also a tough situation because abusers that are good manipulators will have everyone saying no, not them which can be even harder on the victim. : 29.7K.: 951. TikTok masa (@lutizluva): all the comments I get from those who don't believe Amber, these "arguments" give me reason to understand that the person who writes them has no understanding of what the abuse of an addicted person is. People can testify all they want but the bottom line is there is no evidence. Were watching people actively seek out humor in domestic abuse as Roe v. Wade is terrorized by pro-lifers and as we see yet more episodes of racially aggravated violence. We want to believe the highest paid actor of all time. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. [Joel Mandel, one of the managers,] was informed well after the fact through communications with various house staff and security that Depp had been extremely volatile and had sometimes gotten physical with Heard. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Richard Marks says family-friendly companies like Disney are the pinnacle of sensitivity, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Watch live as Johnny Depps trial against Amber Heard continues. they like him because hes a popular, power multimillionaire who is also a man. I agree we are conditioned to believe her not him. Well rally, we always rally, but right here, right now, it feels shit. They were mean, codependent. Psychologist Cooper Lawrence talks about Amber Heards testimony on Sunrise. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. . She seems extremely manipulative. Entertainment lawyer says he believes Amber Heard thought she would benefit from Johnny Depp abuse claims. No other logical explanation. There is none. But I kept quiet I did not expect filing complaints to bring justice. the evidence points to her being a fat liar. JD cut his own finger. Go on social media, and the anti-Heard sentiment is palpable. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I think they were both toxic and both abusive. Its a sad truism that no one is as hard on women as other women. I also believe that when Johnny did hit back it was akin to a shove, not chasing and holding her down and beating the shit out of her. Why it's enraging that people only believe Amber Heard's domestic violence allegations now that a man has backed her up. Viewers believe Amber Heard's testimony was full of movie quotes. Johnny Depp 's defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard continues this week in Fairfax County, Va., shining a light on their tumultuous relationship while igniting discussions and debate about. He probably was abusive as a form of reaction but I think surely she was the aggressor. And two are middle-aged men who are white-knighting, accuse any woman saying they dont believe her of just being jealous because shes so hot and such a strong, successful woman and claim that its disgusting how women are defending Depp. Content copyright Journal Media Ltd. 2023 Registered in Dublin, registration number: Amber Heard Blamed For The End Of Jason Momoa's Marriage byJacob Dressler January 16, 2022 It's recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. This site uses cookies. That is a bottle of wine a day. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. She messed up badly there. He admitted to doing that. she's a nut. hammering Heard over her promise to donate her divorce settlement to charities, donations not yet fulfilled. I dont understand how anyone can support either of these people. Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. Why does such vile testimony consistently elicit contempt from Johnny Depp? I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. We almost always want to believe the man, the more powerful and dominant one. Are we not witnessing a modern-day witch trial? Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. . And Ive been angry before but thats not angry thats insanity. She said she asked him about a tattoo on his arm that looked like black marks. I also believed that amber misconstrued many of his intentions as a result of bpd and Johnny didnt know how or chose not to understand that. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Unless youve been living under a rock for the past few weeks, youll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. Have we completely lost track of the severity of these allegations? You can change your settings or. The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. All the while the abuser is often given the benefit of the doubt. Nevertheless, that hasnt stopped fans from pointing fingers at Amber Heard for the end of Jason Momoas marriage. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. they both suck. But I am genuinely in good faith surprised that this is not the consensus, so perhaps Im missing something. Opinion: Jurors in Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case face choice over which actor to believe This, of course, doesn't mean that women are the victims and men the perpetrators in every single case. Hes no shy, poor guy here. She showed you many she took of Johnny sleeping or passed out how many photos has she shown you of her injuries as a result of Johnny???. Nope, I cant imagine a single scenario in which I write threatening messages on the wall in blood with a severed finger. Still would be considered SA though. . I dont like the term reactive abuse because I dont think that a victims reaction to being abused should be categorized as any kind of abuse. yes she sounds like an actress! They both sucked. . Depp and Heard met on the set of the 2011 film The Rum Diary and married in 2015. . After all, its hard to keep the small stuff straight when youre telling lots of big lies. 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