$20/lifetime membership. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. It was also asked How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. Get real. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. Now, for the first time, we're hearing from the man whose pictures were stolen and used by that "anthony_shots . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I am 100% behind you. Maybe. Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. I dont know, FIELDS! We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. They always came home. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? In a blown-up pic of him, you can clearly see that it has the shape of handcuffs. Police questioned Kegan Kline about the incident during an Aug. 19, 2020, interview at the Indiana State . The catfishing situation is not what we think. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. They werent that close. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. Why do kids play make-believe? Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German disappeared from the Delphi Historic trails while taking an afternoon stroll on Feb. 13, 2018, as previously reported. Shameful. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! Indiana detectives reveal fake male model Instagram account - set up by jailed pedophile - was used to CATFISH the two 14-year-old Delphi girls murdered in 2017 - in bombshell development Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! FSG knew everyone in town. I love you and the information youre releasing! He has connections with current LE officers. This makes absolutely no sense at all. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. And-, Kline: I dont think I ever did, though. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, More Crazy (Obsessive and Conspiratorial) Antisemitism, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. And I appear quite harmless, too. LE asked him to move the vehicle. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Several LE officials have said that Abby had a phone, whether with her or not is not known. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. So hes a murderer. The two girls were on a hiking trail when they were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two best. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! Since then, theyve been poring through thousands of tips. and our http://whatsnewlaporte.com/2014/02/24/cold-case-killing-of-linda-weldy-10-still-waiting-to-be-solved-can-you-help/, https://truthtellersweb.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/photo-page/. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. You want me to put it up? Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. Theres just journalists. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. I find your blog very interesting. I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. Want me to put it up anyway? Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. I dont know if they were part of the search parties. He raped women, not young teenage girls. Welcome to the site! Thats very embarrassing. Hello Jacqui. Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. He may be watching the coverage of this case . 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. Someone driving from Laporte to either of these places would very likely pass through Kingsbury on a normal trek not involving abduction and murder. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. So, there is still marks that are left on that unspent ammunition that can be inspected by an expert and you can say this cartridge was once inside that weapon.. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Instant person of interest. We know there are key POI in other murders including Delphi residing in Wabash and possibly Logansport at that time. The main suspect according to police is a man whose name rhymes with Fat Clown. What is this guy, another Zodiac? They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now. Email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. A pair of binoculars. Almost three years later, it's a mystery that still haunts the small town of Delphi, Indiana while police say the killer may walk among them. Did he see BG? I would like to email this , as it is not particularly relevant to the comments on this page. DELPHI, Ind. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. Id rather not look into the NHI* (no humans involved) cases in the ghetto where one group of scumbags shoots up some other group of scumbags. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. Wow, this is some incredible news. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. We believe this because this is what we were told. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. He was also being investigated as a possible suspect in the kidnapping and murders of . Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? Unverified and Probably Not True. Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. Knives. Please email if you do not want to reply here. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Some of it, I feel, is the result of intentional obfuscation. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. "Abby" Williams, 13, and Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German, 14, according to Indiana State Police . Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. And I cant wait to see what they get from RL about Mr. X. It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. Tuesday 27 December 2022 22:58 Bodycam footage from night of Idaho murders A University of Idaho professor has filed a lawsuit against a woman who baselessly linked her to the brutal murders. And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. So, the girls were found on RLs property. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Are you speculating? Its as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. What? Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. Im not sure if its better that way or not. Every firearm will leave all sorts of markings on the bullets that you put into that weapon, Goodpaster said. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasnt even risen to that level yet. Hmm . We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. He had been there that morning too. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Thanks, Mike! She was emphatic about that. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. 4 A figure was seen walking on the abandoned railroad bridge that Libby German and Abigail Williams had visited Credit: Indiana State Police 4 We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. It is certainly an interesting question, is it not? Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. They say a forensic analysis found the round had been cycled through a gun belonging to Allen. Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. These are simply unverified rumors. Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? But no, that was not the case. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. Must be a lot of people with that name. Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. What are they doing to move this forward? This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. . At the very least he could have made misleading statements. Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. Then there is always the question of his occupation. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. Besides being psycho. ncha futurity 2022 dates. Clown. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. Okay, I think I have the name which I garnered from another website. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. . Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. 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